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February 24, 2012

Students In New Mexico Assaulted by Pro Israeli Supporters

Filed under: Uncategorized — Mr. Craig @ 12:59 pm

There is an absolutely moronic school of thought out  there that suggests that Israel can do no wrong.. or to criticize Israel for action which go against  human dignity or  are immoral for others  is just BAD … the idea that  we must support Israel in evey thing it oes is idiotic… and in reality STUPID…. We can support Israel as a friend and ally…..  but defending them in every thing they do because they are an ally is totally unacceptable… the article below shows how supporters of Israel in Albuquerque New Mexico are  physically assaulting people who exercice ther right to free speech in their condemnation of some of Israel’s actions against the Palestine people.   

A group of University of New Mexico students “mic checked” an Israel Alliance talk on their campus Thursday night, when audience members got up out of their seats and physically attacked the protesting students.

“Mic check! Nonie Darwish speaks for Israeli apartheid!,” yell the students at around 15 seconds into the video.  “And genocide at the hands of the IDF [Israeli army]!” From there, older male audience members begin to slowly walk their way up to the students (some of them young women), and start physically pushing and attacking them. At 55 seconds in, you can see one of the students goes flying over a row of seats.

We’re still trying to gather the facts on this story, but according to the promotional flyer (right),  the title of the talk was  “Why the Arab Spring Is Failing” and was being lead by speaker Nonie Darwish.  

According to uploader of the video, the students eventually filed a police report.  (Un)Occupy Albuquerque has this statement on the video:

A group of people, who were acting in solidarity with the Palestinian people, questioned Darwish’s fear-mongering and her unqualified support for Israel. They were shouted down by pro-Israel members in the audience, who assaulted a woman, pulled her hair, and forcibly pushed another person over a row of seats. A third person was punched in the face. Pro-Israel members also destroyed a phone that was used to record the assault.

And here’s one more angle of the protest and scuffle:

Friday morning, the U.N. Human Rights Council voted to endorse the so-called Goldstone report, the U.N. report finding evidence of Israeli war crimes in Gaza. The report will now be sent to the Security Council. Israeli ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren loudly objected to this report earlier, accusing the international community and the U.N. in particular of siding with Holocaust-deniers. At the time, he was ridiculed. But now, with the Goldstone report gaining traction amid other Israeli foreign policy losses, commentators are beginning to wonder: Is big change ahead for Israel?

  • Beset on All Sides “What has happened?” Asks Yoel Marcus in Haaretz regarding the Goldstone Report and what he perceives as other foreign policy snubs. “Is the whole world really against us once again?” Marcus certainly seems to think so, and he knows the culprit: “In my opinion, only one thing has changed. It is the emergence of the ‘Obama effect.'”
  • Time for Israel to Face Reality, argues the New York Times’ Roger Cohen. Currently, “Israel does not see itself as normal. Rather it lives in a perpetual state of exceptionalism.” But it’s time to cut the talk of “civilization” vs. “barbarism,” good vs. evil, argues Cohen. “There’s another way of looking at the ongoing struggle in the Middle East–less dramatic and more accurate. That is to see it as a fight for a different balance of power.” Cohen points out that accepting this reality can be “painful, as with Justice Richard Goldstone’s recent U.N. report.” But “[t]he Israeli response to his findings strikes me,” he says, “as an example of the blinding effect of exceptionalism unbound. Ordinary nations have failings.”
  • Israel Lacks Legitimacy–But That’s Its Own Fault Ari Shavit offers an alternative Haaretz view. Looking at the Goldstone report, indifference over nuclearization, and other trends, he comes to the following conclusion: “The Jewish people’s right to sovereignty and self-defense is now controversial. Paradoxically, as Israel gets stronger, its legitimacy is melting away.” He blames Israeli domestic politics: “The right sinned by contaminating Zionism with the occupation, and the left sinned by abandoning the campaign over Zionism’s justice.” So now it’s time, he argues, for a “daring diplomatic initiative that would prove that Israel is truly and genuinely striving to end the occupation.”
  • Use Goldstone to Force Israeli Capitulation Foreign Policy’s Marc Lynch has “found the level and heat of rhetoric surrounding the [Goldstone] report to be bafflingly over the top.” But he thinks there might be a way to use the UN vote on it to force a peace settlement: “given how much importance the Israeli government has given to the Goldstone Report, [a U.S. Security Council] veto might actually be used as a form of leverage.”


Has the U.S. exhausted its options in the decades-long effort to mend the Israel-Palestine conflict? The fate of Israeli settlements in the West Bank is unresolved, and both Israeli and Palestinian politics are stuck in turmoil. Moreover, a handful of commentators say that American diplomacy, long viewed as sympathetic to Israel, has run its course after years of failing to secure a compromise. Should we cut our losses and leave them to their devices?

  • Enough  The New York Times’s Thomas Friedman writes, “The only thing driving the peace process today is inertia and diplomatic habit.”

If we are still begging Israel to stop building settlements, which is so manifestly idiotic, and the Palestinians to come to negotiations, which is so manifestly in their interest, and the Saudis to just give Israel a wink, which is so manifestly pathetic, we are in the wrong place. It’s time to call a halt to this dysfunctional “peace process,” which is only damaging the Obama team’s credibility.

If the status quo is this tolerable for the parties, then I say, let them enjoy it. I just don’t want to subsidize it or anesthetize it anymore. We need to fix America. If and when they get serious, they’ll find us. And when they do, we should put a detailed U.S. plan for a two-state solution, with borders, on the table. Let’s fight about something big. 

  • Cut Off Israel’s Aid  Time’s Joe Klein insists “the Netanyahu government isn’t at all interested in peace,” so why support them?

The Obama Administration may have to be a bit less “grandiose” in dealing with Netanyahu’s irredentist government. It should start by putting a hold on all economic and military aid to Israel; the aid should not be discontinued, just held, for a nice long review until the Netanyahu government comes to understand that Jerusalem must be the capital of both Israel and Palestine, and that if you actually want peace, you don’t build illegal settlement colonies in the Palestinian capital.

  • Doesn’t Concern Us  Real Clear Politics’ Greg Scoblete argues we have no interest in the conflict:

We insist on getting involved by cutting huge aid checks to Israel and inserting ourselves in between the combatants to broker a deal, but ultimately, who lives where in the West Bank has absolutely no strategic bearing on the security of the United States. In theory at least, this understanding would liberate us from this counter-productive morass.

  • Why That’s Impossible  Foreign Policy’s Stephen Walt agrees the peace process is a mess, but thinks it’s too late to get out:

I have a certain sympathy for this position (and even wrote similar things myself before I wised up), but there are two problems with this specific idea. The first is that it is a meaningless prescription: There’s no way to cut the aid package (or even put a hold on it, which is what Klein recommends) so long as Congress is in hock to AIPAC and the other groups in the status quo lobby. And unless I’ve missed something, I doubt groups like J Street would support it either. […]

The second problem, I fear, is that it is too little, too late. Having dithered, delayed and dissembled ever since the Oslo Accords — while the number of settlers more than doubled — we are about to face an entirely different problem. The sun is now setting on the “two-state solution” — if it is not already well below the horizon — and pretty soon everyone will have to admit that they are sitting around in the dark and pretending they see daylight.


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